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My 84 VMAX won't start

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:29 am
by plattler
I'm having some trouble getting my VMAX to cooperate. Maybe it likes being in a warm shop? Here's a list of things I've done and what the sled is doing. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.

Things I've done

Purged all old gas, drained and cleaned carbs
New, high octane gas with octane booster (should be around 93)
Replaced CDI with used one
Replaced coil with new one
Checked all resistances and ground continuities. (checks out ok)
New spark plugs
Checked timing using dial indicator method. (looks good)
Shot of fuel direct into cylinders (no effect)
Checked compression (125 psi both cylinders)

What's happening

With plugs out, the spark jumps a 1 cm (3/8") gap

The plugs seem to be firing at the same time (I thought they should alternate)

The engine will "pop" every third or fourth pull, but only the left side. It seems like a backfire. The exhuast pipe does get warm.

Tried starting with and without choke, with and without throttle.

Both plugs are getting damp with fuel. (I don't think it's fooding)

My arms are getting longer (and really tired)


Thanks for any and all help,

Stephan

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:12 pm
by tyler440
wow sounds like me... youve covered everything and still have problem.... lemme think on this one....

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:19 pm
by tyler440
if its got compression and spark then all you need to add is the right amount of fuel... what makes you think it isnt flooding? is there any gas in your exhast? in the event you find it very flooded take you pulse line off and attach another hose on there and blow air into the crankcase and the gas will come out easy.....

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:27 am
by plattler
I think I may have found the problem. After removing the flywheel, the stator plate came out in four pieces. Looks like some of the pick-ups contacted the magnets. I'll have to check them and see if they are still usable. Funny that all the resistance tests came out fine.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:51 pm
by tyler440
hmm interesting... so your stator was broken apart? it must have been way off on the timing then? its a wonder it sparked at all

84 troubles.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:22 am
by vmax-540
That is common with the 84 's to have a broken stator . Try to get one from an 85 or 86. There was a stator change in 84 , they are differant then the 83's , they have a extra coil for hand warmers , and the plate was week so in 85 they changed to a stronger plate and that solved the problem. The 87 is also differant as they upped the voltage in one of the coils so if you find an 87 you should also change the CDI box as that matches the coil output of the 87 stater coils. I hope the helps and good luck. :D :D :D Image