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The Infamous 1983 Pump Drive Gear seal for the water pump !

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:53 pm
by Vmax540
Ok, guys there has to be an answer to this........ ? Yamaha went from a single oil seal in 1983 on the Pump Drive Gear Assembly #93103-25133-00 to a dual oil seal setup in 1984 #93101-25121-00 and #9313-25146-00. They changed the Bearing from #93306-00401-00 (B6004) to the 1984 version #93316-00403-00. The only other change I noticed is the Water Pump Impeller Shaft went from a 1983 # 8M6-12458-01-00 to a 1984 #8X6-12458-00-00

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:22 pm
by CircleMGYTKit
Whats the going rate that someone would be willing to spend on a 1983 water pump seal. I have a few N.O.S. ones i might be willing to sell if the price is right. :twisted: :?:
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Solution!

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:44 am
by tyler440
The following is from chuck,

Here is what I found at my local bearing dealer. We can use 2 double seals(back to back) on the water pump collar instead of the single seal (#3)which is no longer available from Yamaha.


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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:10 pm
by Weasel
Gawd Boss,, You Are The Man!! I could order them right from that company then, yeah?

I don't have Excel with this computer,, or even "xls",, bummer,,

weasel

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:17 am
by Vmax540
Erie Bearings Company
http://www.eriebearings.com/

Yamaha Part #'s and Qty.
93306-0040 Bearing (B6004) 1ea.
93103-25133-00 1ea.
93102-20070-00 1ea.

Erie Bearing (TCM DICHTOMATIK) Part#, Qty. and Price
010-6004 2RS 1ea. $15.34
420-25X42X7TC 2ea. $3.60
420-20X30X7TC 1ea. $4.69
Total With Out Shipping ! $28.86

Top picture is New parts bottom is old.





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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:27 pm
by jefflanthier
the idle gear bearing is a pain too its special order from Japan.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:36 pm
by sxr1000
I just found out that the item #3 part # 93103-25146-00 seal for the 84 and up vmax is now no longer available also,I was able to order all the others,Lyle.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:49 pm
by sxr1000
I found seals to replace the no longer available seal at metricoilseal.com 25x44x7 $4.50 each,it will take two of them and stack them with the springs on the water side,I just hope there is enough room under the impeller.

Infamous Water Pump Housing - !Update!

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:12 pm
by sarnone
Fellas,
I also found replacement seals to be used in place of the discontinued seal. An old vendor of my father's machine rebuild shop, W.C. Ducomb in Detroit. He recommended I use a Chicago Rawhide seal of the dimensions needed. I stated that the TCM seal was a high volume cheapy seal, that wears easily based on it's all rubber construction. The Chicago Rawhide version is metal construction with a rubber lip. He also added that having two seals back to back could offer a space to pack with grease as well.

I will forward the part numbers when I receive my order.

Thanks to the Forum for getting me this far.

Steve

lucky find

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:48 pm
by agfirecat
i found this new old stock seal on ebay it was in north carolina at a dealer :?: i wouldnt think they would carry sled parts in the carolinas
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Re: lucky find

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:33 am
by tyler440
agfirecat wrote:i wouldnt think they would carry sled parts in the carolinas
ive always thought that was kinda weird to... richy rich people must be trailering way north

Re: lucky find

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:45 pm
by agfirecat
agfirecat wrote:i found this new old stock seal on ebay it was in north carolina at a dealer :?: i wouldnt think they would carry sled parts in the carolinas
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the seal is for an 81 im not sure if it will fit a 540 or not but he has 2 more left on ebay
under 440 srx parts

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:35 pm
by vmax-540
Hay Agfirecat where is it on ebay I could use one of those seals but I can't find it on ebay. Do you have a ebay item #. Thanks ,are you going to the Boonville show this summer if so maybe I will see you there..

gearcase seal

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:24 pm
by agfirecat
im gonna def try to get to booneville this year but ive gotta score a trailer before then so i can bring both my sleds .jeff here is the item # for the seal 370219737505 . they are oem seals i should snag another 1 seeing they are no longer available :twisted:

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:18 am
by Vmax540